Carson Wentz’s career with the Eagles was a ‘bust’ - Max Kellerman | First Take
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Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman debate whether Carson Wentz’s career with the Philadelphia Eagles was a bust.
0:00 Max Kellerman explains why Carson Wentz’s career in Philadelphia was a bust.
2:04 Stephen A. disagrees with Max’s Wentz take.
3:00 Stephen A. breaks down why Carson Wentz’s career with the Eagles wasn’t a complete bust.
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Ryan Johnson Acum 3 Zile
How was it a bust when he only had one bad season and he helped us win our first Superbowl? If Wentz doesn't have that MVP level season in 2017 we don't get the first seed and we don't win a superbowl....
dominic pete Acum 4 Zile
I’ll take the 11-2 record and Super Bowl win in 2017 lmao
Michael Fiorentino Acum 4 Zile
I think Stephan A Smith was dropped to many times as a kid. Change my mind
Reggie D Acum 4 Zile
Max with facts. Seems like he is the only person telling the truth on this dude. They gave up the farm for this guy and he didn’t deliver. Everybody is still holding on to 2017 for him. Why? I was in college back then. Now I’ve graduated, bought a house and a dog, got married, got a new car, etc. Circumstances change. People and players evolve over time, and in his case, some regress. He is a bust as of now.
Rod Franklin Acum 5 Zile
LAST SEASON EAGLE & PATRIOTS BOTH HAD BAD ROSTERS ALONG WITH COVID 19 CONDITIONS & PLAYERS OPTING OUT....CAM NEWTON ACTUALLY BECAME INFECTED WITH COVID 19 DURING THE SEASON & NARRATIVES ON CAM NEWTON HAS BEEN LARGELY NEGATIVE WHERE CARSON WENTZ,,,HE WAS A VICTIM OF ALL THE CONDITIONS I JUST MENTIONED EXCEPT HE DIDN'T BECOME INFECTED WITH COVID DURING THE SEASON....TOTALLY DIFFERENT NARRATIVE FOR CARSON WENTZ,,,,ESPECIALLY FROM DAN ORLOVSKY... CHECK THIS OUT...LAST SEASON RECORDS FOR BOTH EAGLES & PATRIOTS... PHILADELPHIA EAGLES: 4-11 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS:7-9 CAM NEWTON DID MORE WITH LESS WHILE BEING INFECTED WITH COVID DURING THE SEASON!!! I WONDER WHY THE NARRATIVE IS DIFFERENT FOR BOTH QUARTERBACKS,,,,HMMMMMM!!!!!
Rod Franklin Acum 5 Zile
DAN ORLOVSKY IS GOING TO GIVE MAX A PIECE OF HIS MIND SPEAKING BADLY ABOUT CARSON WENTZ,,,,,EVEN IF IT'S TRUE... NICK FOLES WON THE SUPER BOWL!!!!! CARSON WENTZ HAS BEEN AVERAGE AT BEST....HIS NAME WILL NOT GET SLANDERED & NEGATIVE NARRATIVE PLACED ON HIM BECAUSE CARSON WENTZ HAS THE COMPLEXION FOR THE CONNECTION...
wali xo Acum 6 Zile
Wantz is trash moving on .....
Empty _ Acum 6 Zile
max “carson wentz killed my grandmother” kellerman
Stone Decatur Acum 6 Zile
Jamarcus Russell? How long ago was that? How long did Brown play in the league? He was over drafted,not a bust.
Daquan McDonald Acum 6 Zile
Bro... Carson ain't won us 1 playoff game and players truly didn't follow him. Smh
JR3_ Jiran Acum 6 Zile
I didn't know a Superbowl was a bust
TZ Sendo Acum 7 Zile
I swear I can’t tell which is worse. This show when max talks about wentz or Brady or skip when he talks about lebron on undisputed.
Mulundano Chitalu Acum 7 Zile
Max kellerman picking IGUADALA to take the last shot over steph curry with fate of the universe, THATS A BUST!!!!
Mulundano Chitalu Acum 7 Zile
That's a bust, no that's somebody's son, somebody's husband, how do you think the wife feels calling her husband a BUST with all that emphasis in Steven A's voice..😂😂😂
Kellz Mathews Acum 7 Zile
Call him a bust but he has a SB lmao and if not for him they wouldnt had even made the playoffs
Devon Paul Acum 7 Zile
Anyone notice how weird carson Wentz's bottom lip looks
Captain Everyman Acum 7 Zile
You'll never convince me that pulling the plug on Brissett and bring in Rivers and Wentz was the right move. Brissett had 14 TDs and 3 INTs with a 65% completion rate through 8 games before the injury in 2019. Rivers and Wentz both had seasons where they played like trash, yet, for whatever reason, the Colts coveted them, and were the only teams to do so. Reich is starting to seem like a clown to me. Bring in your "buddies" isn't a recipe for success. I see Brissett as a lost opportunity, that was going to cost very much. Reich projects this humble guy persona, but thinking you take guys who played horrible football and thinking you're going to "fix" them, is the epitome of arrogance and hubris. They dodged a bullet with Rivers and a very weak schedule. I think the odds of them doing it again are very low.
L Eagle Eyes Wentz Acum 7 Zile
My Cuz is going to be fine!
Icy Diamonds Acum 7 Zile
“I know a bust when I see one”
Nelson S Acum 7 Zile
I am not going to debate whether or not he is a bust but he didnt look physically fit in '20. He didnt have the zip on the ball and he didnt have speed to escape. Seemed weaker, maybe he changed his training routine and/or diet.
Prince Ofpeacecorps Acum 7 Zile
Prwedictable: Max Headroom smoked too much wee. ASports psychosis
jay monamay Acum 7 Zile
Max kellerman is a bust. Poor sad max can't handle his skin color.
eeNORMus 1 Acum 7 Zile
a more appropriate term would be "one year wonder!"
Dylan Morrison Acum 7 Zile
“I forgot about that one” smirk appears on Max’s face 😂
Pfsif Acum 8 Zile
He's a bust in Philly.
Juicy Acum 8 Zile
KWAME BROWN
Omar Evans Acum 8 Zile
Bruh I wish I could be on this show when they say the dumbest things
Jason Wilson Acum 8 Zile
LMFAOOO HE ACTULLY SAID KWAME BROWN
J B Acum 8 Zile
He was PIVOTAL in the Birds winning that Super Bowl. They didn’t “catch fire” w Foles. They were on fire in 2017. Max, You’re such a fkn hater, man.
Chase Maldonado Acum 8 Zile
Kwame brown 😂😂😂😂😂
Gerardo Reyes2 Acum 8 Zile
A lot of 2016 dudes are busts
Young Money Acum 8 Zile
So Carson Wentz has Lebron Standards Supwrbowl or he’s a Bust? It took LBJ 7 Years give Wentz 2 more seasons it took Peyton like 9 years took Eli a while it took Drew Brees a while
Young Money Acum 8 Zile
Carson Wentz threw 113 tds 50 Ints tds that’s not a Bust over 1000 rushing yards and won the division 2 times . Was an All-Pro and Pro-bowl and didn’t have weapons other than 2017-2018 years
Paul Kelly Acum 8 Zile
Why do people think this guy is good? Seems to be a loser who gets hurt a lot. He's very average in my opinion. I don't care about stats.
sharif s Acum 8 Zile
Lmao what does max have agianst Wentz at this point let it go let's c what happens next year...
top notch sports Acum 8 Zile
max is a bust
Chris Ortiz Acum 8 Zile
MICHAEL LEAF that's a bust hahaha😄😄😄😄😄
Jo King Acum 8 Zile
Max he actually progressed in 2018 if you check the proof called stats
Brody D Acum 8 Zile
Wentz is a bust no question
Barclay Pierre élève Acum 8 Zile
so almond winning MVP and winning a ring is failure? in that case i want to fail to.
Rafiq K Acum 8 Zile
😆...at the 4:30 mark when the beat dropped I couldn't help but think stephen a was rappin on the beat lol ....he was flowin too
Cawhi Acum 8 Zile
Lonzo ball, Jahlil Okafor, Andrea Bargani
Dom Killuminati Acum 8 Zile
He's not a bust but you mfs that are saying that he won a SB even though he didn't play are on drugs bad
Cawhi Acum 8 Zile
Greg Oden, Anthony Bennett
Charles Mcdonald Acum 8 Zile
Wentz is a bust of a human being though. Campaigned to get his coach fired. Then when he found out his new coach wasn't just giving him the starting job, demanded a trade.
Jerry Mejias Acum 7 Zile
Doug Pederson is a trash coach. We won that super bowl because of Frank Reich
______ Acum 8 Zile
Notice how all of Stephen A's "busts", are Black. That dude stay tryna keep 'White Daddy' happy...
Billy Manziel Acum 8 Zile
Cry more snowflake
MariCapalot Acum 8 Zile
he aine said kwame brown name in so long 🤣
Vos Landeck Acum 8 Zile
Nah....he wasn't a bust. Ryan Leaf was a bust. Heath Shuler was a bust. Wentz put up good numbers in 2017, 2018 and 2019. Dude had 1 bad season. His Eagles career was disappointing and unsuccessful because he didn't win playoff games....but he wasn't a bust. Kellerman needs to find a new topic.
Johnny Mason Acum 8 Zile
Johnny Manzeil, Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf: these are the biggest busts in NFL history! Carson Wentz simply regressed! He's now in a better system! He should flourish in Indianapolis!
erik puka Acum 8 Zile
Take out 2015 and Cam Newton isnt even Andy Dalton.Take out that year he has a 60-63-1 record with 155 Td to 113 int ratio and a 1-3 playoff record.Those 9 other years that 2015 he had 2 winning seasons and 7 losing seasons.Ehen the 1 hour Documentary of Cam Newtons NFL career will be done-50 minutes will be spent talking about 2015 season.Maybe he was like Carr,Gannon and Wentz all along with truly 1 year of proof that he is even a top 10 QB and 9 years to counter that.Maybe that 2015 was the anomaly and all the others it was his actual self.I never seen anyone live from as much hype as Cam does from that season.That season is the only thing keeping hin relevant in QB convos today.Just please look at stats aside from 2015 and he has a cmp% of 58 %.Cam was always overrated and 2015 was an abnormality-the outlier season
Mack Peters Acum 8 Zile
Aint heard kwame brown in a while 😂😂
Bimmer Fest Acum 8 Zile
If Wentz wasn’t good in 2019. What does that say about Dak?
Young Money Acum 8 Zile
I guess Dak was Hot Garbage
Josh Horne Acum 8 Zile
🥱he’s gone change the subject
Gin N Juice Acum 8 Zile
Carson Wentz career with the Colts was a Bust. Next season news. Remember this post..
SaithusX Acum 8 Zile
Someone in Philly sold their soul to the Devil because it is a complete disaster over there.
Culture Stars Acum 8 Zile
Facts max!
Joe Palmer Acum 8 Zile
Soon as he said KWAME BROWN I lost it 🤣🤣🤣
Cameron Briglin Acum 8 Zile
Ryan Leaf was a bust
Paul Fedor Acum 8 Zile
take it from hardcore Eagles fans........ Wentz is a bust. He holds the ball too long and is prone to fumbles....he holds the ball to long which throws the timing of all the routes off....which leads to interceptions, sacks, and fumble. And what is the worst trait......he is choker and a hick....million dollar arm with a 10 cent head.
Kyle Acum 8 Zile
Max is a clown man. I can’t wait till he eats crow on this next year.
Oreo Acum 8 Zile
We need KWAME BROWN and JaMarcus Russell on the show to defend themselves.
redstang5150 Acum 8 Zile
So it gets down to how you define 'bust'. We need another word for it, b/c I usually think of bust the way Stephen A does, but at the same time, Wentz did NOT pan out for the Eagles and was a really expensive mistake considering all the picks.
NYSportsFan1129 Acum 8 Zile
Y’all gonna drag him for this, but he’s low-key right. No guarantee he would’ve been able to win a SB in 2017.
M M Acum 7 Zile
He's high-key wrong, and you and him obviously don't know the definition of "bust". Leading a squad to a 11-2 record, securing home field advantage, for which the backup almost lost in the divisional, then proceeding to have two average-to-good seasons and then one horrible season doesn't equal a bust. Anyone who says Wentz in Philly was a bust shouldn't be taken seriously.
William JOnes Acum 8 Zile
Josh Rosen deserves more respect, he’s one of the best busts of the modern age haha
Jay_ 12 Acum 7 Zile
Nah He might be trash but I don’t know if he’s Ryan Leaf or Russell level trash.
Corey Mungo Acum 8 Zile
Considering the circumstances nd the contract he was a bust. He went from MVP to unwatchable, that’s a bust. He just wasn’t fresh out of college
The Scoop Acum 8 Zile
Max is approaching this from the business side, Stephen A is approaching it from the player's side. At the end of the day, there are a lot more busts in this league than not. 32 teams always believe they found their QB and very few get to see them be a true franchise QB. Its not to say that they were not worthy of being in the NFL, but you have to perform and deliver. One good season for Wentz does not mean his career was a success in Philly. The question is will he revive his career in Indy?
spacely sproccetz Acum 8 Zile
i hope kwame brown somewhere still getting paid by sas continued barrage on his legacy.😂😂😂
Real Talk Acum 8 Zile
Lol gotta love max fixing his argument to make his narrative. Wentz was god awful last year but bust? get outta here you can pretty it up to make it sound as bad as you want. Dude was bad but not no bust.
Palrath1 Acum 8 Zile
Carsons draft expectations from the organization were unrealistic. They wanted him to be LeBron James. They wanted to take an talentless team to the superbowl and win.
mj Henderson Acum 8 Zile
Max is dumb asl. Without Wentz they wouldn't have won a super bowl.
Evan Kenny Acum 8 Zile
We wouldn’t have won the Super Bowl without him so wrong
Albert Lucero Acum 8 Zile
Don't forget about Anthony Bennett the ultimate bust what was cleveland thinking 😂🤣😂🤣
wook1990 Acum 8 Zile
3 things that are guaranteed in life: 1. Death 2. Taxes 3. Max Kellerman ripping Carson Wentz
frizza241 Acum 8 Zile
It definitely was a bust. Nick Foles got it done. Wentz never recovered from the success of Foles.
Jerry Mejias Acum 7 Zile
Wentz got us into that position. We would’ve never made it with Foles
Mark Russell Acum 8 Zile
He got a ring. Not really a bust on his end
Rodrick Morris Acum 8 Zile
I give max credit for being consistent on carson wentz 😆
Wayne Adam Acum 8 Zile
2017: Hurt, Eagles Win SB 2018: Hurt 2019: Hurt in first Playoff Start 2020: Quit He is a Bust.
Jerry Mejias Acum 7 Zile
He’s in a better system in Indy
Jerry Mejias Acum 7 Zile
He’s not a bust. The eagles are just a garbage team
Lance McCravy Acum 8 Zile
If this was mahomes in 2017 he would be getting praised, everyone would be saying he was the reason they got there...im tired of the wentz hate, its absolutely ridiculous, the eagles franchise is trash and failed this man
M M Acum 8 Zile
I feel like some of these pundits hitch their wagon to irrationally hating a player and just sticking with it no matter what (in this case, Kellerman and his Wentz obsession)
Ben Critterson Acum 8 Zile
Max said that he was the second best quarterback in the league behind Aaron Rogers just two years ago, how can you hold that opinion and hold the opinion that he is a bust?
TKO Alpha Acum 8 Zile
In my opinion having an mvp season, and that season even tho he was injured won a SB is not a bust. He’s had one bad season and I’m not counting his rookie year because he was a rookie.
Jerry Mejias Acum 7 Zile
@Billy Manziel he got us into position to win the super bowl. We wouldn’t have made the playoffs with Foles as starter
Billy Manziel Acum 8 Zile
He did not win a Super Bowl. He watched his backup do it for him.
Clutch 3 Acum 8 Zile
A bust is when you fail to meet expectations,and wentz failed to meet expectations in Philly,thats the same thing if LeBron had a career like Paul George,he would've been considered as a bust because he failed to meet his expectations
ashton capolot Acum 8 Zile
wentz is doo doo bro come on
TheUnatuber Acum 8 Zile
Wentz *was* a bust in Philly! It remains to be seen, however, if his whole career is.
Young Money Acum 8 Zile
A bust is a Quarterback that can’t play like Jonny Manziel Wentz came from a Small school and became a All-Pro and Pro- Bowler threw 113 tds
Davon Norton Acum 8 Zile
"BUST" is a reach , it didn't go as planned but we were able to win a SB because of Wentz getting us HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE. Also 2019 he was good, let's not forget how many dropped game winning TDs there were that year
Billy Manziel Acum 8 Zile
@Davon Norton believe it or not there are more things to accomplish in the NFL than riding the bench to a super bowl which is about the only thing he will ever do.
Davon Norton Acum 8 Zile
@Billy Manziel by that logic every top 5 pick that never even got a Super Bowl ring in the draft is worst than a bust then ok lol you’re entitled to your opinion
Billy Manziel Acum 8 Zile
Your number 2 overall pick that you traded up for “didnt go as planned” in your own words. If that isn’t a bust then no one is.
Brandon Bolden Acum 8 Zile
Bruh I really like Max but some of these tasks make me think he hates Wentz. I can't remember the last time he said something genuinely positive about him before the 2020 season
Darius Manoiu Acum 8 Zile
anthony bennett... WOAH
Kyle Horton Acum 8 Zile
did carson sleep wit max's sister
Man Man Acum 8 Zile
Stevie’s argument suck. Max tries keep it short and sweet and made excellent points
Urbain Delva Acum 8 Zile
Max calls Wentz a bust while ignoring all the other circumstances that played a role in his awful season
jshulman98 Acum 8 Zile
Obviously it ended very badly in Philadelphia, but Max couldn't be more wrong calling him a "bust".. lmao go look up his top 30 career plays or something, a bust wouldn't be able to make those type of plays. Max needs to move on and let it go, he clearly has a personal vendetta for Wentz, acting like he's been a scrub his entire career..
Derrick L Acum 8 Zile
Lamar Stephen said “KWAME BROWN” like that on purpose 😂😂
Mike M Acum 8 Zile
Max gonna keep on with Wentz until he gonna find out a new meaning for bust.
Captain Playtex Acum 8 Zile
Wentz led them to 3 playoff appearances, Stafford has the same playoff appearances in 11 years
eWaDo2191 Acum 8 Zile
If it wasnt for Foles the eagles would've lost that super bowl if wentz played. Brady's teams seem to shut down young QBs on the rise. Look at what his teams did to Mahomes and Goff. Wentz is good but he does have alot still to prove. I wouldnt say he was a bust but his play has been one of a bust lately
Bright Light Acum 8 Zile
He got a Superbowl ring in a year that he was playing at an MVP level. No it wasn't a bust.
Ramon Mendoza Acum 8 Zile
Anthony Bennett was a bust
David Parks Acum 8 Zile
Well apparently 3 straight great seasons and 1 bad one= bust
Zachary Chen Acum 8 Zile
I woudn't call 2016 and 18 great but max is still a clown
bludangell Acum 8 Zile
Kwame Brown still catching heat from SAS in 2021 PMSL
Soccercrazyigboman Acum 8 Zile
Stephens A said KWWAAME BROWN. We gon be alright
Avery Merrick Acum 8 Zile
He’s not wrong.
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