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Should Kobe Bryant be the new NBA logo? Stephen A., Max and Perk debate | First Take
Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Kendrick Perkins debate whether Los Angeles Lakers legend Kobe Bryant should be the next NBA logo.
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0:00 Stephen A. Smith makes the case for Michael Jordan as the NBA logo.
2:48 Max Kellerman says Kyrie Irving supports Kobe Bryant as the new NBA logo because Kobe was a mentor to Kyrie.
3:35 Kendrick Perkins says Kobe Bryant and the "Mamba Mentality" should be honored on the logo.
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ESPN
ESPN Acum lună
0:00 Stephen A. Smith makes the case for Michael Jordan as the NBA logo. 2:48 Max Kellerman says Kyrie Irving supports Kobe Bryant as the new NBA logo because Kobe was a mentor to Kyrie. 3:35 Kendrick Perkins says Kobe Bryant and the "Mamba Mentality" should be honored on the logo.
steve smith
steve smith Acum lună
Kyrie Irving (who I agreed with most times unlike now) made it about race by injecting that the logo should represent the players and most players are African Americans. Magic, Bird, Shaq, Barkley, Russell, Chamberlain, Ewing, Hakeem, Kareem, Big O, Baylor, Wilkins, Worthy, Isiah, Wade, Pierce, Duncan, Malone, Carmelo, Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Curry, Iverson, Frazier, Kawhi, Dr J, Kobe, Lebron, Jordon and tons of other NBA great coaches, players and fans think of Jerry West as an NBA icon too. And that has nothing to do with race. It may have just a bit to do with a rough background. West grew up dirt poor abused by his father and suffered from trauma because of the lost of his older brother who was killed during the war. Now we all agree Kobe is absolutely one of the greatest ever. His father who as a former international and NBA player seemed to have made sure Kobe was prepared to excel at bball in the NBA much like former NBA player Dell Curry prepared his sons Step and Seth Curry. I contend the backgrounds of most African American players seem more align with the working class background of West than that of Kobe who was a blessed privileged upper middle-class or above suburban kid. Obviously Kobe shouldn't never be knocked for a blessed upbringing. However part of the reason why West was selected as logo may be because of his level of achievement in spite of his harsh background. Kobe luckily inherited a blessing from his father by being a former NBA player and so forth. Its part of the reason Kobe was so prepared to go straight into the NBA from high school after growing up partly in Italy and other countries. Kobe lived abroad for so long he actually spoke some foreign languages fluently. Now it took the gifted and talented Jerry West who as the GM of the Lakers believed in the greatness of Kobe and traded for Kobe and Shaq and hired Phil Jackson. The rest is history and forever a part of Kobe's legendary iconic status. The same type of history that West had already helped to cement by turning the Lakers into a dynasty from the 70's thru 90's as a player, coach and GM when he assembled teams with Magic, Worthy, Kareem and Pat Riley as the coach. On top of that, West first name is actually Jerome (Jerry) and so the boy's Momma even blessed him what many could refer to as an African American name. Seriously, the historically great Kobe is a legend and absolutely one of the best ever and most definitely deserving of any and all honors bestowed upon him and so is Jerry West.
Yassir G
Yassir G Acum lună
Should be Kobe
GloriaBeauty5000
GloriaBeauty5000 Acum lună
What does Kobe not being the Goat have to do with him being the LOGO, people shoot each other every day over Jordans. BOOM, He's honored!!!!!👏🏾. Everytime people bring up Kobe you don't have to bring up Jordan. DAANNGGG.Y'all did this junk while he was alive. Imagine if people brought up Michael Jackson everytime somebody talked about Beyonce Knowles!! Y'all are so effing annoying🤬🤬🤬
Derek Hall
Derek Hall Acum lună
Yes he should but I agree with Stephen
Faith Thomas
Faith Thomas Acum lună
All as a black woman born in 1984 , I’m a hockey fan ( that’s right first take I’m a hockey fan ( I live in California but I also have family in Canada ( I am a LA KINGS FAN ) and I don’t WANT LEBRON ON THE LOGO , HE HASNT EARNED LEMME REPEAT EARNED THE RIGHT , if we’re going to change it ( WHICH IT SHOULDNT BE CHANGED BY THE WAY ) it should be either KAREEM ABDUL JABAR , MAGIC JOHNSON OR MICHAEL JORDAN
Trey Judah
Trey Judah Acum o Zi
I don’t think you can change the logo at this point. It’s been more than 50 years there has been millions of billions of jerseys and merchandise sold at this point and I feel that it’s impossible to change this, but I feel they should make a secondary logo with all parts of guys who piloted the modern era Mj Kobe Lebron maybe even Curry or Durant I think that’s prob what would happen
Raymond Hansen
Raymond Hansen Acum 7 Zile
Kendrick reppin Kobe hard. Love it
Famous Infamous
Famous Infamous Acum 11 Zile
Keep Jerry on the Logo! I think it's a bit far and blasphemous to take away from the Great Jerry West legacy for any reason or any one! And under these circumstances race shouldn't come into the equation at all! I would probably add Mr. Bryant's number to the ball backboards and things but leave Jerry out of this! If that's the case they should have put Wilt Chamberlain as the logo in which I wouldn't agree with either!
P.F.Scalise SCALISE
P.F.Scalise SCALISE Acum 24 Zile
Kobe is number #1.........
Drafecito
Drafecito Acum lună
Snoop said it perfectly the court will be filled with jordan logos, the shoe is always going to be present also, there really isn't someone who represents effort and passion to the game as much as kobe give the logo to the mamba
Daniel Denno
Daniel Denno Acum lună
Kobe the real goat 🐐
Craig Gallagher
Craig Gallagher Acum lună
YES - Kobe should be the logo. Period.
Shawn Watson
Shawn Watson Acum lună
Kobe is already named the all star game mvp award, but mj should definitely be the logo. Mj has globalized the game like no other player.
HyperSmooth
HyperSmooth Acum lună
no
The Captain
The Captain Acum lună
As much as I love Kobe and enjoyed every game he played, this is ridiculous and the logo should be left the way it is. Jerry West is the perfect man for the LOGO and race should’ve nothing to do with it. These idiots are bringing race all the time and the last person they should quote or listen to is Kyrie Irving.
Unpopular Popular Opinion
Unpopular Popular Opinion Acum lună
Why can't they both be in the logo? I can come up with some awesome designs.
Unpopular Popular Opinion
Unpopular Popular Opinion Acum lună
Kobe is my favorite of all time. He's the GOAT to me, but I think Jordan should be the logo, no debate.
William Edward
William Edward Acum lună
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RetinolGaming
RetinolGaming Acum lună
Is Harmon Killebrew the best baseball player ever? Then what does it matter. Jerry West did alot to build the league in the old school. The league should have history.
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The Advocates Beats
The Advocates Beats Acum lună
I AGREE WITH KENDRICK PERKINS 1000%
Jonathan Gonzalvo
Jonathan Gonzalvo Acum lună
I am a Kobe fan to the max but it should be MJ, he was trascendental, he made the NBA the ultimate global brand. Kobe wouldn’t be in the conversation if he hadn’t tragically passed, so what happens if Kobe becomes the logo now and (God forbid) MJ passes away in a couple of years? Do they change the logo again?
GLNY
GLNY Acum lună
Hear me out, Kareem's Sky Hook
Richard Alfaro
Richard Alfaro Acum lună
The Lakers from the time I was 7 to 25 was my life and kobe was the biggest reason for that .. I would be dying a few times and still watch lakers games my make a wish was meet kobe and shaq (I got better so I didn't so sad lol ) um I missed my high-school and college graduations to watch the lakers playoff and chips to watch kobe Bryant played the oy game I missed in that span was his 81 point game 😕😢 but anyways when kobe died ... I havnt even agreed it happend yet its just makes me angry.. and I would ike to see him as the logo as a good way to remeber him by but if not it's fine .. the current logo is so engrained with the NBA it would be sort of annoying to see something else because it can't be Jordan's signature logo because it's to related to just his market and personal sales .. and with kobe I wouldn't like to just throw a logo out their just becauae he is gone I think it would cheapen his memory by monetizing him but I'm probably just dumb
Fatal Four Way Podcast Jesse Lopez
Fatal Four Way Podcast Jesse Lopez Acum lună
It's a new era I believe the logo should change to kobe. It's an easy fix what is wrong on having two logos. Classic Jerseys have Jerry West logo, modern Jerseys Kobe. Or have all three as the NBA. Three letters, three Silhouettes. Have Jerry west dribble, Kobe jumpshot, MJ new dunk pose. Respect the all generations who built the game. That is my Opinion though.
Arthur berberyan
Arthur berberyan Acum lună
Make Kobe the Logo get it done NBA c ☑️
Jim Okpeaha
Jim Okpeaha Acum lună
There’s no need to change it 🤦‍♂️
Robert Allen IV Esquire
Robert Allen IV Esquire Acum lună
Perk was talking that talk🙌🏾
Augusta BlacLissted Barz
Augusta BlacLissted Barz Acum lună
Mj doesn’t deserve it because it’s not about the goat it’s about Kobe’s endurance and motivation and what Kobe and his mamba mentality stood for .. MJ stands for nothing aside from gambling and prison systems and we all know this. We wanted to be like mike because of nikes great promotional team in the 90s let’s be real ..
Otis Robertson
Otis Robertson Acum lună
Kobe Bryant is this generations "Legend" for us today just like MJ was in his time. pay respects where its due.
John Murray
John Murray Acum lună
Why does max gatta bring race into smh
Whizzard Blizzard
Whizzard Blizzard Acum lună
Perk and Kyrie are right Jordan’s myth shouldn’t overshadow the reality of Kobe Jordan is the GOAT, yes. Ijs that he didn’t LIVE basketball Jordan literally left the league to go play a completely different sport To me, that disqualifies him from being the very symbol to recognize essentially all that is basketball The NBA is the biggest basketball league and should lead by example. Kobe is the perfect example It’d also display the inclusivity that the NBA has been striving for There aren’t too many people I’d consider a bigger proponent of women’s basketball and its growth I could probably go on all day about this lol It should really be Kobe
rentcda
rentcda Acum lună
No
D Zone
D Zone Acum lună
Dudley should be the new logo
DeMar DeRozan
DeMar DeRozan Acum lună
Kobe got bodied 😹
Jmc Drawer
Jmc Drawer Acum lună
I am a black man. No.
strikehair55
strikehair55 Acum lună
Such a dissapointing Take from Stephen riding Mj wave. Shame on you brother.
strikehair55
strikehair55 Acum lună
Should be Kobe
Aadarniya Khadka
Aadarniya Khadka Acum lună
I want to smack Stephan A right in his face... Logo is representation of the league. Jerry west was not the best player ever in his time he was great but not best. And he want Jordan to be logo and slogan of NBA will be (I TOOK THAT PERSONALLY). or you want never give up mamba mentality never given up as your logo meaning.
Kamil
Kamil Acum lună
Americans are race obsessed. Not everything is about race for f sake.
Juan Garcia
Juan Garcia Acum lună
Definitely should be Jordan.
Ahuja Football
Ahuja Football Acum lună
"If I ever get in a fight with a bear, you pray for the bear, not me. That's mamba mentality"
Special Sock00
Special Sock00 Acum lună
Unless you pulling out the chopper I'm praying for you not the bear. I don't care who it is.
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Peleiupu Leiataua
Peleiupu Leiataua Acum lună
I’d pick kareem sky hook, then Jordan logo, Kobe like sixth or seventh.
Jordan Stevens
Jordan Stevens Acum lună
max saying “why is it a white dude” just makes me mad. he’s sucking up to stephen a and kp for one, but even if jerry west was black you wouldn’t be able to tell by the logo. the only reason we’re discussing this is because kobe died. if we changed the logo to kobe and then lebron dies in 20 years, we’ll wanna change it to lebron. i say either keep the logo since it’s been the iconic logo for decades, or change it to mj because he’s responsible for the league being what it is today
Atomiczombie24
Atomiczombie24 Acum lună
They should keep the logo as it is and then put kobe logos on all jerseys
Rohan Chaurasia
Rohan Chaurasia Acum lună
I don't usually agree with perk ever, but I wholeheartedly think he is completely right on every field here.
Hank Bluz
Hank Bluz Acum lună
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James Harris IV
James Harris IV Acum lună
Whenever perk talks I fast forward
Haruko Akagi
Haruko Akagi Acum lună
I love Kobe but its a No no!! Jerry West is great and perfect Logo for Nba dont change what is good.
Ty Tolbert
Ty Tolbert Acum lună
No to Kobe
Chris Smith
Chris Smith Acum lună
What kings? Y'all have some melanin and that makes you a king. From jump you make black ppl think they are owed
Vahan Vardanyan
Vahan Vardanyan Acum lună
Kobe should be logo end of story
Diyan Tsvetkov
Diyan Tsvetkov Acum lună
The new NBA logo should be with Luka Doncic silhouette.
David Roseman
David Roseman Acum lună
My god I must be sick. I agree with SAS for the first time ever. Maybe it's because he's finally making a point without screaming
MWill TooMuch
MWill TooMuch Acum lună
Yes he should! At least give him that, the nba skip his name for being one of the greatest of all time they just went straight to Lebron or Jordan. The way he died was very horrible and come on It's KOBE BRYANT. I can see if we was talking about Robert Horry or Rick Foxx 😂
Drei P
Drei P Acum lună
MJ is the GOAT. However, Kobe should be the logo. Kobe is the best representation of hardwork. If you think about it, Everyone in the GOAT conversation have athletic edge over everybody. Lebron, Jordan, Shaq, Wilt, Russell and Magic are all Athletic freaks but Kobe dominated the same way they did without the athletic gifts that these players did. All because of hardwork. I believe this change will inspire players that even without the athletic gifts, you can still dominate.
Jerry Jazzbo
Jerry Jazzbo Acum lună
KYRIE IS NOT THE NBA COMISSIONER. IF IT'S NOT MJ, LEAVE IT AT JERRY WEST.
Eliezer Bonilla
Eliezer Bonilla Acum lună
Give the logo to Kobe man, he gave the game all that he had dealing with injuries and hate. I grew up watching Kobe in 2007 when I was 7 years old. He’s the reason I love basketball and got to know the sport. He’s my goat 🐐
Cristian Mancillas
Cristian Mancillas Acum lună
So tragically unbearable what happened to K. Bryant and all the other passengers....
Oliver Dennis
Oliver Dennis Acum lună
No matter who, can we put two footprints in the logo, for Dame.
Jerald Vincent Zumel
Jerald Vincent Zumel Acum lună
Kendrick Perkins will say anything just to discount Jordan for LeBron.
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LIKE FATHER LIKE SON JR
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Stephan Williams
Stephan Williams Acum lună
Bro we all know Xi Jinping should be the new logo
Y MOOSE Y
Y MOOSE Y Acum lună
Keep it simple. Forget MJ or Kobe. It should be Dr. J.
project one
project one Acum lună
MJ logo. He is the 🐐
Giovanni Meshulam
Giovanni Meshulam Acum lună
"Jerry West was the Kobe Bryant of his day" ??????????? What?!🤦🏽‍♂️
Barney Martinez
Barney Martinez Acum lună
Jump man logo
Logan Metcalf
Logan Metcalf Acum lună
Jerry West as the logo is fine though. Not disrespecting Kobe, just saying.
Slatternly Skaghalter
Slatternly Skaghalter Acum lună
Stephen a love that jacket
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MATTEO SAAD CONSTANDSE
MATTEO SAAD CONSTANDSE Acum lună
Kobe should be the logo
Justin Tincher
Justin Tincher Acum lună
Kobe
WASIV
WASIV Acum lună
just change it from white to black and they'll be happy, bc thats what this conversation is really about. more disgusting race-baiting on ESPN
Earl Kalas
Earl Kalas Acum lună
There's conflict of interest with Jordan being the logo because he is a team owner!!!
Thomas McMillan
Thomas McMillan Acum lună
i’m sorry and no disrespect to kobe but u can’t just change the logo bc someone dies like everybody dies and there’s players that have better careers then him snd haven’t become the logo like
AdrianMusicRox
AdrianMusicRox Acum lună
THAT LOGO SHOULD BE MJ!!!!! I love Kobe but no way over MJ.. respectfully.
Joel Embiid
Joel Embiid Acum lună
no don't change it to kobe
Allen Han
Allen Han Acum lună
Kobe should not be the NBA logo. NBA logo needs to ambiguous, when you tie the logo to someone then people who don't that position or play style in NBA will feel off.
RAM
RAM Acum lună
If Kobe becomes the NBA logo then Marilyn Manson should be put on a stamp.
Black Panther
Black Panther Acum lună
michael jordan already has a famous logo, with his Jordan brand.
Brick Jaymes
Brick Jaymes Acum lună
Jordan mentality= mamba mentality
SL1Mv
SL1Mv Acum lună
Why is Stephen a so stuck on goat goat goat on the court. What did Jordan do off the court? Kobe helped so much off and on the court. He changed basketball.
STKPYL
STKPYL Acum lună
Just leave it as is. People reading too much into the logo. The logo wasn’t made to honour Jerry West. The logo is a silhouette of a random guy dribbling a ball. It lets anyone believe they can be an NBA player. Not everyone can be Kobe. Frankly, does anyone think Kobe would want himself as the logo? He already has the All-Star game and MVP in his honour, leave it at that.
Quadyre Smith
Quadyre Smith Acum lună
Black mamba
Kiko Aranda Jimenez
Kiko Aranda Jimenez Acum lună
Kobe or MJ it would be the same silhouette
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Fernando Perea
Fernando Perea Acum lună
Thank you Kendrick. I agree with him. 100% Kobe should be the new logo
SHalps97
SHalps97 Acum lună
Why does it have to have anything to do with race max?
Robert Harper
Robert Harper Acum lună
I think they TOTALLY failed to realize why people want it to be kobe. When someone shoots a shot what do they say???? KOBE! The logo is not a popularity contest on who they think the GOAT is. Dont forget kobe smashed lebron many times on 1v1. Perkins kinda nailed it. Kobe was a icon an had that mamba mentality. Now we not saying michael was not a icon and is not the GOAT. But Mike has his name everywhere ect. Let Kobe shine some!!!!!!!! 💚💚💚💚💚💜💜💜💜💜💛💛💛💛💛
Robert Harper
Robert Harper Acum lună
NEEDS TO BE KOBE. END OF DEBATE
Mark taylor
Mark taylor Acum lună
Scalabrine should be the logo
Mamba Mentality Forever
Mamba Mentality Forever Acum lună
I Want Kobe Bryant To Be The NBA Logo Period
Ivan
Ivan Acum lună
stephen a been shooting airball takes lately...
GRIZZLY 559
GRIZZLY 559 Acum lună
Love perks take on this
GM Unghetto
GM Unghetto Acum lună
Yes
TomCollierBlog Nation
TomCollierBlog Nation Acum lună
Michael Jordan didn’t die WITH HIS DAUGHTER IN A PLANE CRASH, Kobe is and should be the logo
NELL2K4
NELL2K4 Acum lună
Change the logo !
Traitster
Traitster Acum lună
Kobe shouldn't be the logo nobody said this before his passing but now everyone thinks it should be him smh
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